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Sunday 19th April 2009, 10:32pmSource: TJ CloutierSlow-Rolling and Peeking at the Losing Hand
Some players act with class at the poker table, others don't. Two slimy things that poker players universally hate-slow-rolling and asking to see the losing hand-show no class whatsoever, yet you still see them happening.
A few years back at the World Series of Poker we were in the second day of play in the Big One when a huge hand came up. It was four-way action between Doyle Brunson, two other players, and a guy I'll just call Roller. A pair of threes were showing on the board along with three diamonds. The way the hand came down, two side pots developed. But only Doyle and The Roller were in for the entire pot. After the hand was completely dealt and all the betting was done with, the dealer was making sure that he had all the money right in each of the side pots. While this was going on, Doyle says, "Roller, I've got the nut flush. Is it any good?" Roller doesn't answer. Ten or fifteen seconds go by and Doyle repeats, "Roller, I guess you didn't hear me. I've got the nut flush. Is it any good? That's all I want to know." Again Roller doesn't answer. This goes on for about a minute and a half with no answer. Finally all the pots are square the way they should be, and Doyle shows down his hand, the nut flush. Roller sits there for about a minute and finally turns over pocket threes-he had made quad threes! Doyle, a man that you never see getting out of line against another player when he's playing poker, called Roller every name under the sun. Not because he beat Doyle in the hand, but because he had slow-rolled him. I call that the ultimate slow roll. Here you're playing for $1 million first-place money and you don't have the courtesy to tell a man that he's beat! My next story is for all you players who love to see the losing hand. It happened in the old days in Texas when we didn't have a center dealer and the hands weren't killed. If you're any kind of poker player at all, you're supposed to know just about what your opponent has, so to ask to see the losing hand is just poor manners. This story happened during two sessions in Dallas. We played at Art Whitaker's on a Tuesday night and Charlie Bissell's the next day. Manning Briggs beat Larry Tooker in a pot Tuesday night and said, "I want to see the losing hand." So Larry showed it over. Larry's a real nice guy and Manning's a nice guy too, but he plays real hard when he's playing poker. The very next day, Larry, Manning and Hugh Briscoe are in a pot together at Bissell's place. Hugh used to overlook a lot of his hands, and in this hand he was drawing for a flush. Larry got raised out of the pot, but remembering the night before, he says, "Now I want to see both hands when this pot's finished." Manning shows down two pair at the end. "That's good," says Hugh. "Wait a minute," says Larry, "I told you that I wanted to see both hands." So Hugh turns his hand over. Sure enough, he had overlooked it-he hadn't made the flush, but he had made a middle-buster straight and wound up winning this huge hand from Manning. I'll guarantee you that Manning Briggs never again asked to see the losing hand. See how it came back to haunt him? I believe that poker should be a gentlemanly game. I know that a lot of women play poker, but when I say "gentlemanly" you realize that I mean it in the highest sense of the word. Whether your opponent is strong or weak, it's a bad idea to slow-roll him or ask to see his losing hand. The strong opponent just gets hot about it, and the weak player gets embarrassed. You might even drive the live one right out of the game-but the real point is that it's poor poker etiquette. Till next time, this is TJ signing off to the world from the dusty backroads and the bright blue skies of Texas. |
19th October 2009 3:08pmSource: Poker News HeadlinesIs SEGA Poker On The Way?
Video game provider SEGA could be set to launch their own poker and casino platforms following the granting of a gambling licence by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission today.
18th October 2009 10:25amSource: GoodLuck Poker BlogThe 5 Dumbest Things I Ever Did Playing Poker
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16th October 2009 7:02pmSource: TJ CloutierFrom Canada to Texas: Football & Poker
Anybody who sees me at a poker table says that I look like a football player. And of course, that's what I was in my youth. After I got out of the Army, I signed on as with the Montreal Allouettes, where I played first string tight end until I was traded to the Toronto Argonauts.
14th October 2009 8:05pmSource: Poker News DailyDoyle Brunson Inducted into Hardin-Simmons University Athletic Hall of Fame
Legendary poker player Doyle Brunson will be feted yet again on Friday night, but not for any of his performances over his 50-plus year career in the game of poker.
13th October 2009 6:50pmSource: PokerListings.comWSOP introducing November Nine Academy
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12th October 2009 10:05amSource: Poker King BlogA.J. Benza Out as Co-Host of High Stakes Poker
When "High Stakes Poker" returns for its sixth season in February of 2010, there will be one major change - A.J. Benza will no longer be a part of the show.
9th October 2009 5:18pmSource: Poker News DailyAaron Gustavson Defeats Peter Eastgate in EPT London
As the great wrestler Ric Flair said, ?To be the man, you gotta beat the man!? In this week?s finale of the European Poker Tour?s (EPT) London stop, Aaron Gustavson did just that, besting reigning World Series of Poker (WSOP) Main Event Champion Peter Eastgate heads-up.
7th October 2009 7:04pmSource: PokerListings.comdurrrr Challenge: The half way mark and more
Possibly getting underway with the half-way goal in mind, the latest session in the durrrr Challenge only ended after a total of 1,063 hands were played.
6th October 2009 6:36pmSource: Poker News DailyDoyle Brunson Advocates WSOP Europe Venue Change
Even though he has more than 50 years in the poker world under his belt, poker legend Doyle Brunson continues to be one of the leaders in the community, advocating suggestions for improvements to the industry.
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